Comments on: Wikipedia and Olympics Committee heading for collision? http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/ assorted blogging by Sage Ross Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:26:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: uberVU - social comments http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-608 uberVU - social comments Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:19:27 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-608 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by wikisignpost: I just blogged about the Olympics photographer issue: http://tr.im/BhwF Looks like Wikipedia is actually at the center of this thing.... Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by wikisignpost: I just blogged about the Olympics photographer issue: http://tr.im/BhwF Looks like Wikipedia is actually at the center of this thing….

]]> By: Canada Guy http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-572 Canada Guy Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:37:43 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-572 The Olympics are self destructive. With the threat of global warming we cannot afford such flagrant displays of excess and overconsumption. The best way to avoid 300,000 tons of emissions is for people to simply stay at home. <a href="http://selfdestructivebastards.blogspot.com/2009/10/olympics-are-self-destructive.html" rel="nofollow"> http://selfdestructivebastards.blogspot.com/2009/10/olympics-are-self-destructive.html</a> The Olympics are self destructive. With the threat of global warming we cannot afford such flagrant displays of excess and overconsumption. The best way to avoid 300,000 tons of emissions is for people to simply stay at home.

http://selfdestructivebastards.blogspot.com/2009/10/olympics-are-self-destructive.html

]]> By: Alison Wheeler http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Alison Wheeler Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:36:52 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-527 The basic question will end up being about the requirements of the ticket Richard purchased. If there was a clear indication in advance of all the purchase steps that making the ticket purchase would require the purchaser to enter into a contract not to use photographs they may take, then the IOC *might* have some sort of case. But it is like shrink-wrap licencing. If you don't have a chance to sensibly know about it then it can be deemed an unfair term and unenforceable. The basic question will end up being about the requirements of the ticket Richard purchased. If there was a clear indication in advance of all the purchase steps that making the ticket purchase would require the purchaser to enter into a contract not to use photographs they may take, then the IOC *might* have some sort of case. But it is like shrink-wrap licencing. If you don’t have a chance to sensibly know about it then it can be deemed an unfair term and unenforceable.

]]> By: sage http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-526 sage Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:43:40 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-526 Certainly, I would hope the free culture communities would give Giles whatever support we can. But that would mainly be in terms of legal help, I imagine. Raising money to pay excessive damages would just encourage more suing of amateur sports photographers and reward the IOC for it's anti-fan behavior. But like David Gerard said, the IOC isn't likely to willingly to put itself through the PR nightmare of actually suing. Certainly, I would hope the free culture communities would give Giles whatever support we can. But that would mainly be in terms of legal help, I imagine. Raising money to pay excessive damages would just encourage more suing of amateur sports photographers and reward the IOC for it’s anti-fan behavior. But like David Gerard said, the IOC isn’t likely to willingly to put itself through the PR nightmare of actually suing.

]]> By: Kevin Gamble http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-525 Kevin Gamble Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:00:05 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-525 Well said David! Well said David!

]]> By: CC licensed photos and the International Olympic Committee - Creative Commons http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-524 CC licensed photos and the International Olympic Committee - Creative Commons Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:28:06 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-524 [...] Wikipedia and Olympics Committee heading for collision? by Sage Ross, who points out that Giles’ photo(s) likely came to the attention of the IOC indirectly via English Wikipedia, where one of Giles’ photos is currently used in the Usain Bolt article. [...] [...] Wikipedia and Olympics Committee heading for collision? by Sage Ross, who points out that Giles’ photo(s) likely came to the attention of the IOC indirectly via English Wikipedia, where one of Giles’ photos is currently used in the Usain Bolt article. [...]

]]> By: Longbow4u http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Longbow4u Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:22:12 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-523 I hope Mr Giles gets all the possible support from the Wikimedia Foundation in this situation. A lot of pictures originate from Flickr, some licenses are changed on the request from Wikipedians from NC to CC-BY-SA licenses so that the images can be used on Wikipedia. If Mr Giles gets punished for relicensing, it serves probably as a warning to other photographers in similar cases not to relicense under a commercially re-usable license. The conditions of the IOC are not unique but very common on sport events and other events. This could potentially affect the possibility to obtain freely licensed images in general if IOC prevails with their legal opinion as to the restriction of licensing by imposing conditions on the ticket as implicit contractual terms (not to license photos commercially). For example pictures of rock and popstars at concerts. If Mr Giles should have to pay damages, perhaps there is a possibility to alleviate his situation by relevant Free Content Organisations - I mean this organizations benefit, so they should share the risks, too? Fair is fair. Longbow4u I hope Mr Giles gets all the possible support from the Wikimedia Foundation in this situation. A lot of pictures originate from Flickr, some licenses are changed on the request from Wikipedians from NC to CC-BY-SA licenses so that the images can be used on Wikipedia. If Mr Giles gets punished for relicensing, it serves probably as a warning to other photographers in similar cases not to relicense under a commercially re-usable license. The conditions of the IOC are not unique but very common on sport events and other events. This could potentially affect the possibility to obtain freely licensed images in general if IOC prevails with their legal opinion as to the restriction of licensing by imposing conditions on the ticket as implicit contractual terms (not to license photos commercially). For example pictures of rock and popstars at concerts.

If Mr Giles should have to pay damages, perhaps there is a possibility to alleviate his situation by relevant Free Content Organisations – I mean this organizations benefit, so they should share the risks, too? Fair is fair.

Longbow4u

]]> By: David Gerard http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-512 David Gerard Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:43:56 +0000 http://ragesoss.com/blog/?p=312#comment-512 In a word: no. The photographer still owns the copyright and the licence can't be revoked on existing copies under that licence. The IOC may think they have a case for damages for breaching the ticketing terms, but that doesn't revoke the copyright in established US law. Perhaps they think they can revoke it under Chinese law, given the photo was taken in China. But for the moment, the IOC can just fuck off. In a word: no. The photographer still owns the copyright and the licence can’t be revoked on existing copies under that licence. The IOC may think they have a case for damages for breaching the ticketing terms, but that doesn’t revoke the copyright in established US law. Perhaps they think they can revoke it under Chinese law, given the photo was taken in China. But for the moment, the IOC can just fuck off.

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