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		<title>Ed Larson comes to town</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edward J. Larson was the guest for my department&#8217;s colloquium yesterday. It was neat to get a chance to talk with him during the graduate student coffee beforehand, where I was the host (even if it was hard to get a word in edgewise). Larson is an interesting character for a number of reasons. His [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Larson">Edward J. Larson</a> was the guest for my department&#8217;s colloquium yesterday.  It was neat to get a chance to talk with him during the graduate student coffee beforehand, where I was the host (even if it was hard to get a word in edgewise).  Larson is an interesting character for a number of reasons.  His research interests are admirably sprawling; he&#8217;s a legal scholar as well of as a historian of science, and religion, and politics, and law.  He was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Herbert">Frank Herbert</a>&#8216;s lawyer; as he told it, it was his job to call up Frank and tell him when he&#8217;d been at his foreign residence too long and had to get back home to avoid extra taxes.  He studied history at Wisconsin under <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Numbers">Ron Numbers</a>, and he shares an inordinate number of interests with my advisor <a href="http://www2.blogger.com/Daniel%20Kevles">Dan Kevles</a> (including eugenics, law, the Galapagos, Antarctica).</p>
<p>Like Numbers (and unlike the vast majority of scientists and philosophers), Larson takes an extremely balanced approach to his work on creationism and its permutations (see his two books, <span style="font-style: italic;">Trial and Error</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;">Summer for the Gods</span>).  And in lot of ways, he&#8217;s in a perfect position to do something powerful and significant for the public discourse over Intelligent Design.  He has a track record with his Pulitzer Prize-winning Scopes Trial book, which is well regarded by creationists, anti-creationists, <span style="font-style: italic;">and </span>historians of science (no mean feat).  By odd coincidence, Larson was a fellow of the Discovery Institute, doing unpaid consulting on their <a href="http://www.discovery.org/cascadia/">Cascadia Project</a> (which is funded mostly by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation">Gates Foundation</a>, even now).  He left when they got into ID, but obviously his connection there just adds to his credibility on the topic.  Larson was at University of Georgia for a number of years, but recently moved to Pepperdine University, where he still does both law and history.  Pepperdine is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ">Church of Christ</a> school (coincidently, the non-denomination both Matt Gunterman and I grew up in); Larson was raised a Lutheran (I think of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Lutheran_Church">ALC </a>variety, now part of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_in_America">ELCA </a>), though I&#8217;m not sure how religious he is now.</p>
<p>Anyhow, the point of all this is that a book on ID by Larson would demand respect from a lot of corners.  When I asked him why he hadn&#8217;t done more with it (his latest projects are on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_1800">election of 1800</a> and Antarctic exploration), he got defensive.  On the one hand, he insisted he <span style="font-style: italic;">had</span> in fact written a lot on ID (articles in an assortment of popular venues; the updated version of <span style="font-style: italic;">Trial and Error</span>; public lectures like the one he&#8217;s giving this afternoon;  his appearance last year on <span style="font-style: italic;">The Daily Show</span>).  On the other hand, he explained, Intelligent Design is extremely hard to pin down.  Each of the main figures at the Discovery Institute has a different take on what exactly ID entails, and each is defending a different set of metaphysical doctrines (obviously, even if not explicitly).  To further complicate things, there&#8217;s the tricky relationship between &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221; and &#8220;intelligent design&#8221;, the utterly blurred continuum from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson">Phillip Johnson</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson">William Dembski</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe">Michael Behe</a> to <a href="http://telicthoughts.com/some-id-positions/">Mike Gene</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Collins">Francis Collins</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_R._Miller">Ken Miller</a>.  So Larson said that Intelligent Design isn&#8217;t a discrete historical topic, and that this kind of thing (cultural/intellectual history?) is not what he does.  (He has written a general history of evolution, a concept at least as historically amorphic and flexible as ID, but I digress.)  His understanding of the complexity of the issue (as opposed to the polemics that currently pass as scholarly analysis, which tend to have a monolithic view of ID) is exactly why he should write the book on it.  I guess the real issue is that he doesn&#8217;t think ID is a significant issue in the long term, which I think is (for better or worse) may not be the case.</p>
<p>On a related note, <a href="http://discovermagazine.typepad.com/horganism/">Horganism</a> has a pair of posts (<a href="http://discovermagazine.typepad.com/horganism/2007/01/in_his_patworth.html">part 1</a>, <a href="http://discovermagazine.typepad.com/horganism/2007/01/more_francis_co.html">part 2</a>) about an interview with Francis Collins that are worth looking at.</p>
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