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		<title>On copyright infringement and &#8220;theft&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I went to an open discussion about SOPA with Jason Altmire, who represents my district. He came out against SOPA at the end of the event. But one thing that bugged me was that just about everyone used &#8220;theft&#8221; as a synonym for copyright infringement. And this &#8220;theft&#8221; by rogue websites in China and [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I went to an open discussion about SOPA with Jason Altmire, who represents my district. He <a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/U.S._Congressman_Jason_Altmire_comes_out_against_SOPA">came out against SOPA</a> at the end of the event. But one thing that bugged me was that just about everyone used &#8220;theft&#8221; as a synonym for copyright infringement. And this &#8220;theft&#8221; by rogue websites in China and southeast Asia, everyone supposedly agrees, is a <em>serious problem</em>, even if SOPA isn&#8217;t the right answer.</p>
<p>Consider a typical case where somebody downloads a Hollywood movie to watch, without paying for it. Taking this movie wasn&#8217;t authorized by the copyright holders. But the copyright holders still own it. They still have all their copies, and they are still free to make more. They can distribute and license it as they wish. They can make sequels and spin-offs and t-shirts and bobble-heads.</p>
<p>What would you call that? I would call it copyright infringement, but I wouldn&#8217;t call it theft.</p>
<p>Now imagine a different scenario. A work you have is taken from you. And once it&#8217;s been taken, you can no longer make copies. In fact, you have to get rid of all the copies you have. When it was yours, you could make copies, send them to your friends, make derivatives, use it as a jumping off point for new works. You could do with it as you pleased. Now, you can&#8217;t do any of that without the permission of the person who took it from you.</p>
<p>Would you call <em>that</em> theft?</p>
<p>I would call it <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_v._Holder"><em>Golan v. Holder</em></a>. Wikimedians are having to get rid of thousands of public domain works from Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons that used to be public domain in the U.S.—used to belong to the public, to use and copy and build from—which were put back into copyright by Congress. And the Supreme Court just decided that in fact, that&#8217;s just fine.</p>
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		<title>Aaron and Greg, and guerilla open access</title>
		<link>http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/07/28/aaron-and-greg-and-guerilla-open-access/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week was the beginning of something that might end up pretty huge in the world of free culture, copyright and open access activism. Aaron Swartz, a free knowledge activist hacker with ties to the Wikipedia community, was indicted by the federal government for allegedly downloading millions of files from JSTOR (an academic journal database) [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_653" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aaron_Swartz_at_Boston_Wikipedia_Meetup,_2009-08-18_.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-653" title="Aaron Swartz at a Boston Wikipedia meetup" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/800px-Aaron_Swartz_at_Boston_Wikipedia_Meetup_2009-08-18_-450x360.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Aaron Swartz, free knowledge hacker</p></div>
<p>Last week was the beginning of something that might end up pretty huge in the world of free culture, copyright and open access activism. <a href="http://www.aaronsw.com/">Aaron Swartz</a>, a free knowledge activist hacker with ties to the Wikipedia community, was <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/reddit-co-founder-charged-with-data-theft/">indicted</a> by the federal government for allegedly downloading millions of files from JSTOR (an academic journal database) with the intent to distribute them on P2P networks. The actual charges aren&#8217;t for copyright infringement or anything directly related, however. They are for wire fraud, computer fraud and related offenses based on the way he allegedly obtained the files, by connecting to the MIT computer network and setting up scripts that downloaded files and dodged attempts to cut off access.  (SJ Klein has a <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2011/07/24/aaron-swartz-v-united-states/">great overview of the charges and context</a>.)  Aaron never released this trove of files, and has reportedly turned them over to JSTOR.</p>
<p>He may have been planning to, however. You can get some insight into his thinking from the <a href="http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/09/guerilla-oa.html">Guerilla Open Access Manifesto</a>, which essentially advocates widespread and systematic sharing of restricted scholarship.</p>
<p>(The original is offline, but an <a href="http://pastebin.com/cefxMVAy">apparently complete version</a> that may or may not be authentic showed up on pastebin recently.)</p>
<p>In response to Swartz&#8217;s arrest, Wikimedian and free software developer Greg Maxwell actually did release a trove of JSTOR files: the <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6554331">complete archive of Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society</a> (the longest-running scientific journal, started in 1665) through 1922. These have all entered the public domain in the legal sense, but not the practical sense. You can only get them under restrictive terms and/or for high prices (either through JSTOR or from the Royal Society).</p>
<p>You should read Greg&#8217;s whole essay. Here&#8217;s the conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>If I can remove even one dollar of ill-gained income from a poisonous industry which acts to suppress scientific and historic understanding, then whatever personal cost I suffer will be justified — it will be one less dollar spent in the war against knowledge. One less dollar spent lobbying for laws that make downloading too many scientific papers a crime.</p>
<p>I had considered releasing this collection anonymously, but others pointed out that the obviously overzealous prosecutors of Aaron Swartz would probably accuse him of it and add it to their growing list of ridiculous charges. This didn&#8217;t sit well with my conscience, and I generally believe that anything worth doing is worth attaching your name to.</p></blockquote>
<p>A lot of free culture and open access advocates draw a line between Aaron and Greg. Greg is praised for taking his stand, but few are endorsing Aaron&#8217;s alleged actions, only condemning the gross disparity between the charges and the alleged actions — while ignoring or opposing the argument of the Guerilla Open Access Manifesto. (That line between them is copyright law.)</p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;m not so sure. I&#8217;m not sure copyright law has enough moral force to be a meaningful distinction. I&#8217;m certainly not convinced terms of use have enough moral force to matter here. The bottom line is, the world of academic publishing and distribution is changing&#8230; but painfully slowly. Academic publishing isn&#8217;t cheap, professional-grade digitization of old journals isn&#8217;t cheap, and there&#8217;s no single fix for keeping everything people like about academic publishing and archiving (like peer review and professional editing and easily searchable databases) while getting rid of what we don&#8217;t like (like paywalls), without totally upending the industry. Greg-ites — who liberate public domain material — and Aaron-ites — who want to liberate all scholarship, copyright be damned — both have the same practical consequences: to push paywalls and organizations that rely on them closer to irrelevance, and to place the burden of organizing and indexing and providing access onto open knowledge communities and organizations (and big data companies like Google).</p>
<p>I lean toward thinking that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Wikipedia and the psychologists</title>
		<link>http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/05/30/wikipedia-and-the-psychologists/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I spent the last several days in D.C. at the <a href="http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/convention">annual convention of the Association for Psychological Science</a> (APS), along with Wikipedian Piotrus and Wikipedia researchers Rosta Farzan and Bob Kraut, talking to psychology researchers about Wikipedia. We probably talked with 200 people, and almost everyone we talked with was supportive of–if not downright enthusiastic about–trying to improve Wikipedia&#8217;s psychology coverage.</p>
<p>Several months ago, with the vocal support of APS President Mahzarin Banaji, the APS launched their &#8220;Wikipedia Initiative&#8221; to get psychologists into editing Wikipedia. So far, the main thrust has been their <a href="http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/members/aps-wikipedia-initiative">APS-WI portal</a>, which aims to give newcomers a clear way into Wikipedia and point them toward articles in their area of interest that need work–and at the same time, systematically test different approaches to getting people involved.</p>
<p>Before the convention, the APS Wikipedia Initiative had recruited 263  psychologists.  68 of them had started editing, with over 400 different  articles edited among them. (Now 13 more have signed up, and 10 more  have started editing.)</p>
<p>I had the opportunity to give a short presentation to the APS board before their convention started, in which I shared a bit of what we know about the barriers to expert participation in Wikipedia more broadly and then gave an overview of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program for helping professors run Wikipedia editing assignments in their classes.  The reaction among board members was really encouraging&#8230; and that evening, Professor Banaji spent a few minutes at the beginning of the official opening of the convention exhorting APS members to get involved with Wikipedia. (She even mentioned me!)</p>
<div id="attachment_637" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:APS_meeting_opening,_2011-05-26.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-637" title="Mazarin Banaji at the crowded opening of the APS convention" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/IMG_9051-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mahzarin Banaji at the crowded opening of the APS convention</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">Banaji&#8217;s enthusiasm for Wikipedia comes across clearly in <a href="http://www.qaa.ac.uk/podcasts/Wikipedia.mp3">a recent podcast about the APS Wikipedia Initiative</a>. For the two main days of the convention, that enthusiasm seemed to carry over to the many psychologists who stopped by the lavish Wikipedia booth APS had set up.  We also did five Wikipedia demos–often with conversations about Wikipedia going on at the same time with whoever stayed behind at the booth.  I came back with a list of 42 instructors potentially interested in working with the ambassador program and doing Wikipedia assignments.  That, of course, has been my focus for the last year&#8230; until now, limited mainly to supporting classes on public policy. Our <a href="http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/For_educators">Education Portal</a> is active now, with a broad range of support materials and advice for anyone assigning Wikipedia to their students.  (The <a href="http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/The_Syllabus">sample syllabus</a>, in particular, is something the psychology professors responded very positively to.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It seems that Wikipedia in the classroom is where APS is converging now, too. The Wikipedia Initiative team will soon be working with an intern assigned to develop tools to help instructors evaluate their students&#8217; contributions, which will hopefully produce something broadly useful for anyone running Wikipedia assignments.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;m optimistic that we&#8217;ll see a wave of additional professional societies getting behind Wikipedia, especially if as many psychologists set their students on Wikipedia as I now expect. You can&#8217;t buy the kind of improvement in public representations of psychology that 50 classes of students editing Wikipedia would bring.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The<a href="http://citationneeded.tumblr.com/"> [Citation Needed] blog</a> has been around for a while.  The curators post interesting / silly / bizarre examples of Wikipedia prose marked as [<em>citation needed</em>].  Cool as far as that goes.</p>
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		<title>Wikimedians are awesome (and WP10 Pittsburgh)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend Brandon <a href="http://www.gaijin.com/2011/01/for-wikipedias-10th-birthday-a-love-letter/">posted his love letter to Wikipedia</a>, in honor of its 10th birthday.  The reason he loves Wikipedia, and loves working for the Wikimedia Foundation, is because of The Mission: to make the sum of human knowledge freely available to everyone in the world.  &#8220;Would [you] be interested in taking a massive pay cut in order to make the world a better place?&#8221;  He likes the ring of that.</p>
<p>For me, for a long while now, the Wikimedians are the reason I love the project (and love working for WMF these last six months).  They are the people who answer &#8216;yes&#8217; to that question.  Some are literally taking a pay cut, like Brandon and most of the Wikimedia tech staff, who could be making a lot more money working elsewhere.  Thousands more make similar decisions, devoting major chunks of their lives to volunteering for The Mission.  From the web designer who spends dozens of hours a week getting to the bottom of disputes and helping Wikipedia newbies on IRC, to the history student who organizes photo scavenger hunts and meetups, to the software developer who sorts through copyright issues on Commons every day, to the engineer who curates lists of the works of great artists, to biochemisty professor who makes videos and gives presentations about how to edit.  And these are just a handful of the ones I&#8217;ve actually met.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what drew me to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost"><em>The Wikipedia Signpost</em></a> soon after I became a Wikipedian&#8211;I wanted to serve those people, to support our fragile community.  That&#8217;s why I fill up my camera every time I go to a meetup.  And that&#8217;s what makes my job—<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">lolcat herder</span> online facilitator—so rad. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkF5o6KPNI">Wikimedians are weird</a>, and they aren&#8217;t always easy to talk to or get along with.  But they are also wonderful—generous, idealistic, kind-hearted, fierce.</p>
<p>For the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pittsburgh">10th birthday in Pittsburgh</a>, Wikipedians and Wikipedia fans fought their way through the teeming throngs of Steelers faithful during a playoff game, just to celebrate and be together.  We walked through the crowd telling people about the Wikipedia celebration and giving away stickers and pins.  The spontaneous reactions people had when Wikipedia was brought up were amazing.  I&#8217;ve never been flirted with so much in my life.  Talking about Wikipedia with people who don&#8217;t contribute just emphasizes how awesome the people who do are.</p>

<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7679/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 9'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7679-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 9" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7681/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 8'><img width="100" height="71" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7681-100x71.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 8" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7696/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 7'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7696-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 7" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7706/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 6'><img width="100" height="71" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7706-100x71.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 6" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7707/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 5'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7707-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 5" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7710/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 4'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7710-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 4" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7712/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 3 - Steelers crowd'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7712-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 3 - Steelers crowd" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7718/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 2 - touchdown'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7718-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 2 - touchdown" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7670/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 15 - Piotrus'><img width="80" height="100" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7670-80x100.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 15 - Piotrus" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7671/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 14 - that&#039;s me'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7671-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 14 - that&#039;s me" /></a>
<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7673/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 13'><img width="100" height="80" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7673-100x80.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 13" /></a>
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<a href='http://ragesoss.com/blog/2011/01/17/wikimedians-are-awesome-and-wp10-pittsburgh/img_7677/' title='WP10 Pittsburgh 10'><img width="100" height="66" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_7677-100x66.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="WP10 Pittsburgh 10" /></a>
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<p>The Mission is still a long way off.  But what keeps me going is the people working toward it along with me.</p>
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		<title>review of Good Faith Collaboration</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joseph Reagle&#8216;s Good Faith Collaboration: The Culture of Wikipedia is a major step forward for understanding &#8220;the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit&#8221; and the community that has been building it for the past decade. Based on Reagle&#8217;s dissertation, the book takes a broadly humanistic approach to exploring what makes the Wikipedia community tick, combining [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://reagle.org/joseph/">Joseph Reagle</a>&#8216;s <a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;tid=12342"><em>Good Faith Collaboration: The Culture of Wikipedia</em></a> is a major step forward for understanding &#8220;the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit&#8221; and the community that has been building it for the past decade.  Based on Reagle&#8217;s dissertation, the book takes a broadly humanistic approach to exploring what makes the Wikipedia community tick, combining elements of anthropology, sociology, history, and science &amp; technology studies.</p>
<p>The book opens with an example of how Wikipedia works that turns the famous &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law">Godwin&#8217;s law</a>&#8221; on its head: unlike the typical Internet discussion where heated argument gives way to accusations of Nazism, Wikipedians are shown rationally and respectfully discussing actual neo-Nazis who have taken an unhealthy interest in Wikipedia.  This theme of &#8220;laws&#8221; carries throughout the book, which treats the official and unofficial norms of Wikipedia while turning repeatedly to the humorous and often ironic &#8220;laws of Wikipedia&#8221; that contributors have compiled as they tried to come to an understanding of their own community.</p>
<p>Reagle&#8217;s first task is to put Wikipedia into historical context.  It is only the most recent in a long line of attempts to create a universal encyclopedia.  And what Reagle shows, much better than prior, more elementary pre-histories of Wikipedia, is just how much Wikipedia has in common&#8211;in terms of aspiration and ideology&#8211;with earlier efforts.  The &#8220;encyclopedic impulse&#8221; has run strong in eccentrics dating back centuries.  But the real forerunners of Wikipedia come from the late 19th and early 20th centuries:  Paul Otlet&#8217;s &#8220;Universal Bibliographic Repertory&#8221; and H.G. Wells&#8217; &#8220;World Brain&#8221;.  Both projects aspired to revolutionize how knowledge was organized and transmitted, with implications far beyond mere education.  Just as the Wikimedia Foundation&#8217;s mission statement implies&#8211;&#8221;Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge&#8230;&#8221;&#8211;Otlet and Wells saw Utopian potential in their projects.  Those efforts were based on new technologies&#8211;index cards and microfilm&#8211;and each new wave of information technology since then has inspired another attempt at a universal knowledge resource: Project Xanadu, Project Gutenburg, Interpedia, Distributed Encyclopedia, Nupedia, GNUpedia.  Wikipedia, Reagle argues, is the inheritor of that tradition.</p>
<p>Next, Reagle sets out to capture the social norms that the Wikipedia community uses as the basis for its communication and collaboration practices.  These will be very familiar to Wikipedians, but Reagle does a nice job of explaining the concepts of &#8220;neutral point of view&#8221; and the call to &#8220;assume good faith&#8221; when working with other editors, and how these two norms (and related ones) underlay Wikipedia&#8217;s collaborative culture.  Of course, Reagle readily recognizes that these norms have limits, and one doesn&#8217;t have to go far into Wikipedia&#8217;s discussion pages to find examples where they break down. But understanding the aspirations of the community in terms of these norms is the first step to an overall picture of how and why Wikipedia works (and, at times, doesn&#8217;t work).</p>
<p>Reagle then turns to consider the &#8220;openness&#8221; of Wikipedia, which is an example of what he calls an &#8220;open content community&#8221;.  Wikipedia&#8217;s effort to be the &#8220;encyclopedia that anyone can edit&#8221; means that inclusiveness creates a continual set of tensions&#8211;between productive and unproductive contributors, between autonomy and bureaucracy, between transparency and tendency of minorities to form protected enclaves.</p>
<p>Decisionmaking and leadership on Wikipedia are even bigger challenges than openness.  In successive chapters, Reagle examines the concept of &#8220;consensus&#8221; as practiced by the Wikipedia community and the role that founders Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger played in setting the early course of the project.</p>
<p>The ideal of consensus was inherited from earlier open technical communities like the Internet Engineering Task Force, whose credo declares &#8220;We reject: kings, presidents and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and running code.&#8221;  But that ideal doesn&#8217;t map precisely onto Wikipedia, in part because the &#8220;running code&#8221; of Wikipedia content isn&#8217;t as easy to evaluate as a computer program. Reagle also draws in intriguing comparison between Wikipedia&#8217;s still-unsettled notions of consensus and the practices of a more mature consensus-based community: the Quakers.  Wikipedia lacks some of the roles and traditions that support decision-making in Quaker groups, and one implication of Reagle&#8217;s discussion is that Wikipedians might be able to learn a lot about effective consensus-based governance from the Quakers.</p>
<p>The lasting imprint of Wikipedia&#8217;s founders, the &#8220;good cop&#8221; Wales and the &#8220;bad cop&#8221; Sanger, has been treated a number of times before.  But Reagle&#8217;s is the clearest account yet of how the tension between their different ideas for how to structure a voluntary encyclopedia project played out.  Especially in the early years of Wikipedia, Wales&#8217; role was primarily focused on maintaining a healthy community and balancing the perspectives of community members, highlighting good ideas and attempting to build consensus rather than promoting his own specific ideas.  Even from early on, though, Wales&#8217; role as &#8220;benevolent dictator&#8221; (or &#8220;God-King&#8221;, in the negative formulation) was a source of tension.  Reagle notes that this tension is a recurring feature in open content communities; even the half-joking titles given to Wales are part of a broader tradition that traces to early online communities.</p>
<p>From my perspective as a Wikipedian&#8211;already familiar with norms and much of the short history of Wikipedia&#8211;the most powerful part of the book is the discussion of &#8220;encyclopedic anxiety&#8221;.  Reagle argues that reference works have long provoked reactions from broader society that say more about general social unease than the specific virtues and faults of the reference work at hand.  Wikipedia is a synecdoche for the changes taking place in information technology and the media landscape, and has served as a reference point for a wide gamut of social critics exploring the faults and virtues of 21st century online culture.  That is not to say criticism of Wikipedia is always, or even usually, off-base.  But what critics latch onto, and what they don&#8217;t, involves the interplay of the reality of Wikipedia and its role as a simultaneous exemplar for many social currents and trends.</p>
<p>Good Faith Collaboration is an enjoyable read, erudite but well-written and straightforward.  It will be required reading for anyone serious about understanding Wikipedia.</p>
<p>*disclaimer: I consider Joseph Reagle a friend, and he thanks me in the preface. I read and commented on early versions of parts of the book.  At the time of writing this review (October 2010) I also work for the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that runs Wikipedia.  But neither of those factors would stop me from being harsh if I thought the book deserved it. The review represents my personal opinion.</p>
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		<title>Wikimania 2010</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am writing wrote this on the plane back from my first Wikimania. Wow! An amazing experience! First off, I couldn&#8217;t have written my ROFLCon blog post if I had been to Wikimania already. What is true of the social dynamic of Wikipedia meetups for (mainly) the English Wikipedia community–that we tend to be on [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_494" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-494" href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2010/07/13/wikimania-2010/light-before-dawn-in-gdansk/"><img class="size-large wp-image-494" title="Light before dawn in Gdansk" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Light-before-dawn-in-Gdansk-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Free Knowledge in the City of Freedom. Staying out until dawn was not uncommon.</p></div>
<p>I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">am writing</span> wrote this on the plane back from my first <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimania">Wikimania</a>.  Wow!  An amazing experience!</p>
<p>First off, I couldn&#8217;t have written my <a href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2010/05/03/them-and-us-roflcon-folks-and-wikipedians/">ROFLCon blog post</a> if I had been to Wikimania already.  What is true of the social dynamic of Wikipedia meetups for (mainly) the English Wikipedia community–that we tend to be on the introverted side, and it takes a while for people to open up–doesn&#8217;t translate to the international scope and scale of Wikimania.  Wikimedians there were warm and friendly from the get-go.  Maybe it takes a critical mass of sociality before introverts start to open up, rather than merely time.  So bigger is better.</p>
<p>Organizationally, things were modestly chaotic.  For the most part this was fine.  The one real fail was that many attendees were unexpectedly kicked out of their dorms early, and I heard that a group of them ended up spending one night in a public park.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a shame that Wikimania hasn&#8217;t been held in North America since Wikimania 2005 in Boston.  That was before the real upswing of Wikipedia&#8217;s popularity, and the majority of active American and Canadian Wikimedians have never had a chance since they joined to attend a nearby Wikimania.</p>
<div id="attachment_493" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-493" href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2010/07/13/wikimania-2010/truth-in-numbers-discussion/"><img class="size-large wp-image-493" title="Truth in Numbers discussion" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Truth-in-Numbers-discussion-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Filmakers Scott Glosserman and Nic Hill with Jimmy Wales</p></div>
<p>One of the highlights of the conference was the premiere of <a href="http://truthinnumbersthemovie.com/"><em>Truth in Numbers?</em></a>, a documentary about Wikipedia that&#8217;s been about 5 years in the making.  It&#8217;ll be released publicly later this year.  Reactions from Wikipedians were mixed and complicated, although during the screening itself it felt like a very positive reaction. The film gives a lot of focus to some shallow or misleading lines of criticism, and on an intellectual level, it comes off as largely anti-Wikipedia, contrasting the reasonable-sounding arguments of mature critics with the naive optimism of youthful Wikipedians.  (For the most part, the critics&#8217; arguments are easily answered, but the counter-arguments are a little more sophisticated than what can be explained well in a documentary aimed at an audience with little Wikipedia background.)  Emotionally, though, I felt that Wikipedia–or rather, the Wikipedians–win in a landslide.</p>
<p>The<em> Truth in Numbers?</em> filmmakers also plan on releasing all the used and unused footage–full interviews with Wikipedians from around the world as well as important critics and supporters–so that others can re-edit and re-purpose it.  There are many stories that could have been told in <em>Truth in Numbers?</em> I think the film is emotionally satisfying and it&#8217;s strong by the standards of the documentary genre.  Comparing it with other documentaries about weird communities, it&#8217;s far better than, say, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_OS"><em>Revolution OS</em></a>, but not quite to the level <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkon_%28film%29"><em>Darkon</em></a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellbound_%282002_film%29"><em>Spellbound</em></a>.  I&#8217;m excited to see what else might come of it.  A film intended to tell the history of Wikipedia would be quite different, and a film about the politics and values and philosophy of the Wikimedia movement would be different yet again.  Hopefully the licensing of the extra footage will be free enough that the Wikimedia community can actually use it.</p>
<p>It was so great meeting many of the people I&#8217;ve known only online.  Really, Wikimedians are the awesome-est people in the world.  A whole year is too long until Wikimania 2011 in Haifa, Israel.  Hopefully I&#8217;ll be able to make it to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wiki-Conference">Wiki-Conference New York</a> in August to hold me over; last year&#8217;s was great, and this year&#8217;s should be even better.</p>
<div id="attachment_495" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-495" href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2010/07/13/wikimania-2010/strategy-session-at-wikimania/"><img class="size-large wp-image-495" title="Strategy session at Wikimania" src="http://ragesoss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Strategy-session-at-Wikimania-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Open Space discussion on Strategy</p></div>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragesoss/sets/72157624344261347/">I took a few pictures</a>, which seem to have been well received.  They&#8217;re all <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2010">on Wikimedia Commons, too, along with 1000 others</a>.  As a default, I didn&#8217;t add names for anyone but Wikimedia board and staff, since many Wikimedians may not like having named pics publicly available.  But let me know and I&#8217;ll add your name to your pic, if you like.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This weekend, I went up to Cambridge for ROFLCon II (see my pics).  It was a wonderful, happy, fun, smart conference, and I was really struck by the sense of solidarity among participants, who all consider themselves part of &#8220;Internet culture&#8221;. Being part of a culture means drawing lines between &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221;, and whenever [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<p>This weekend, I went up to Cambridge for ROFLCon II (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragesoss/sets/72157623975228490/">see my pics</a>).  It was a wonderful, happy, fun, smart conference, and I was really struck by the sense of solidarity among participants, who all consider themselves part of &#8220;Internet culture&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being part of a culture means drawing lines between &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221;, and whenever Wikipedia was discussed I got the distinct impression that for ROFLCon folks, Wikipedia clearly falls into the category of &#8220;them&#8221;.  I was one of very few Wikipedians there that I know of (Stuart Geiger   was there; I found out that Tim Pierce, a panelist who played a big role   in Usenet history, is a Wikipedian; and I saw Benjamin Mako Hill   briefly).  That&#8217;s not to say that ROFLCon folks don&#8217;t like Wikipedia; respect&#8211;including respectful criticism&#8211;was the dominant tone.  But as one of the Know Your Meme folks lamented in the final panel, &#8220;Wikipedia doesn&#8217;t care about memes&#8221;&#8211;and, by extension, a lot of other significant aspects of Internet culture that are not being documented by mainstream sources.  In a lot of ways, especially through policy, Wikipedia explicitly distances itself from Internet culture.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also striking how different the ROFLCon social atmosphere was compared to virtually every Wikipedian gathering I&#8217;ve been to.  We&#8211;Wikipedians&#8211;are, on the whole, geeks of a different flavor.  ROFLCon is a conference of extroverts; Wikipedians tend to be more introverted.  At Wiki Conference New York City last year, one outsider suggested after hanging out with us for a while that maybe one reason for the gender imbalance among Wikipedians is that males are more likely to be aspies&#8211;and by implication, that Wikipedians, or at least the ones who come together to share their passion for Wikipedia, don&#8217;t seem like neurotypicals.  In my own experience Wikipedian gatherings can be wonderful, they just usually take a while for everyone to get comfortable with each other and start to let their personalities out.  ROFLCon (which at least gave me the impression of being closer to gender-balanced, although I didn&#8217;t try to calculate) was a conference of fast friendliness&#8211;even for people with rivalries and bad blood between them.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evgeny Morozov has a new review of Jaron Lanier&#8217;s You Are Not a Gadget, and he spends a fair bit talking about Wikipedia, the touchstone for how the Internet is changing culture.  (Wikipedia researcher Ed Chi offered to review it for the Signpost, but Knopf publicity has so far ignored my every attempt to request [...]<div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evgeny Morozov has a new <a href="http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100311/REVIEW/703119990/1008">review of Jaron Lanier&#8217;s <em>You Are Not a Gadget</em></a>, and he spends a fair bit talking about Wikipedia, the touchstone for how the Internet is changing culture.  (Wikipedia researcher Ed Chi offered to review it for the <em>Signpost</em>, but Knopf publicity has so far ignored my every attempt to request a review copy.)  As I understand it, the book is in part an extension of Lanier&#8217;s Wikipedia-centered 2006 essay &#8220;<a href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html">Digital Maoism: The Hazards of the New Online Collectivism</a>&#8220;.  I haven&#8217;t read the book, but I trust Morozov&#8217;s assessment.  His central point is this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Technology has penetrated our lives so deeply and so quickly that the only way to make sense of what is happening today requires not only drinking from the anecdotal fire hose that is Twitter, but also being able to contextualise these anecdotes in broader social, historical and cultural settings. But that’s not the kind of analysis that is spitting out of Silicon Valley blogs.</p>
<p>So who should be doing all of this thinking? Unfortunately, Lanier only tells us who should not be doing it: “Technology criticism should not be left to the Luddites”. Statements like this establish Lanier’s own bona fides – as a Silicon Valley maverick unafraid to confront the cyber-utopian establishment from the inside – but they fail to articulate any kind of vision for how to improve our way of discussing technology and its increasingly massive impact on society.</p></blockquote>
<p>Morozov says that our understanding of the legal dimensions of the Internet have been elucidated by the likes of Zittrain, Lessig and Benkler.  But humanist and social scientists, he says, have let us down in their duty to explore the cultural dimensions of the rise of the networked society, by either ignoring it or relying &#8220;obscure post-structuralist terms&#8221; that occlude whatever insights they might or might not have.</p>
<p>The overall point, that the academy hasn&#8217;t done enough to make itself relevant to ongoing techno-cultural changes, is right on target.  But I think Morozov&#8217;s glib dismissal of work in media studies, sociology, anthropology, etc., is unfair to both the main ideas of post-structuralism and the writing skills of the better scholars who do work on technology and culture (Henry Jenkins and Jason Mittell come to mind, but I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of others).  Lanier&#8217;s epithet of &#8220;digital Maoism&#8221; is crude red-baiting; I&#8217;m not sure whether Morozov&#8217;s jargon jibe is red-baiting (post-structuralism being the province of the so-called academic left), he genuinely doesn&#8217;t think much of how humanists have analyzed the Internet, or he is just being contrary.</p>
<p>Post-structuralism is complicated (and I don&#8217;t pretend to be an expert) but what&#8217;s relevant in this context, I think, is (as the Wikipedia article obtusely puts it) the idea of &#8220;the signifier and signified as inseparable but not united; meaning itself inheres to the play of difference.&#8221;  Put another way, culture (that is, a work of culture) is valuable in whatever ways culture (that is, a culture, a group of people) values it; what matters is not the work itself (and its inherent or intended meaning) but the relationship between a work an its audience.  Related to this is a value judgment about what kinds of culture are better or more worthy of attention: &#8220;writerly&#8221; works that leave more opportunity for an audience to create its own meanings vs. &#8220;readerly&#8221; works that are less flexible and open to reinterpretation.  The relevance of these ideas for the Internet&#8217;s effects on culture should be obvious: audiences now have ways collaborating in the creation of new meanings and the reinterpretation of cultural works, and can often interact not only with authors work, but with the authors themselves (thereby influencing later works).</p>
<p>So when Lanier sneers at &#8216;silly videos&#8217; and Morozov complains that Lessig doesn&#8217;t address &#8220;whether the shift to the remix culture as a primary form of cultural  production would be good for society&#8221;, I can&#8217;t help but see it as the crux of a straw man argument.  <em>You would have us give up our current system that creates such wonderful culture </em>(left helpfully unspecified, since there&#8217;s no accounting for taste)<em> in exchange for remixed YouTube tripe?</em> But humanists are starting to place more value in the capital intensive products of the culture industry precisely because of the way that audiences can remix them and reuse them and create meanings from them.</p>
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<li>Recommended reading: &#8220;<a href="http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/118">Sites of participation: Wiki fandom and the case of Lostpedia</a>&#8221; by Jason Mittell</li>
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<p>This recent lecture by <a href="http://futureoftheinternet.org/blog">Jonathan Zittrain</a> is long, but well worth it.  It&#8217;s about various forms of crowdsourcing and clickwork, and their scary potential for exploitation, political manipulation, political repression, and other bad stuff, related to what I&#8217;ve blogged about <a href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/12/03/demand-media-vs-wikimedia-the-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-internet/">Demand Media vs. Wikimedia</a> and the <a href="http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/23/wikipedia-in-theory-psychology-of-fun-and-games-edition/">psychology of fun and games</a>.</p>
<p>The send-up of Wikipedians and why Wikipedia isn&#8217;t on <a href="http://subvertandprofit.com/">Subvert and Profit</a> is kinda cute at 39:20.</p>
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